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Post by Legion on Feb 27, 2015 22:55:27 GMT -5
I always felt like B&B was really the opposite of nonsense. It was like it was hyper-aware of the zeitgeist, to the point of pain.
Also a new personal favourite is arising among series: Bates Motel. Like Hannibal, another prequel series done masterfully. Contemporary setting, but everything has a crepuscular 80's horror feel. Everything looks like Pet Sematary. Really unconventional characterization as well, everyone acts unusually believable. Excellent.
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Post by mark321 on Feb 28, 2015 2:34:57 GMT -5
Never liked Beavis and Buthead myself. Southpark was the one for me when it came out ,though I stopped watching that a few years ago as it got too bloody stupid. Family Guy hasn't taken its place now
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Post by borntobooze on Feb 28, 2015 3:15:43 GMT -5
Yes, Legion, I believe this is a feature present in the Mike Judge's animations, which complements the nonsense character. It's like Monty Python I believe. Behind many absurdities there is a strong critical sense of reality. As one of my favorite episodes in which B&B go to a coliseum watching a Monster-truck show and in a brutal climax, a truck crushes a chemical bath stirring ire of the Roman god of feces, which appears and punishes for having desecrated your temple. There are several critical in this animation, but I think there is a touch of absurd humor too. There is another modern animation also that despite appearing to be just a nonsense comedy presents a quite pungent modern zeitgeist, more offensive than B&B but smart, called Mr. Pickles. It's an 'bad taste' animation that easily cause nausea to the most boring puritans. There is also another funny but milder called Metalocalypse, this is a bit silly but it is fun also. I don't know if you guys have seen, but they're good to have a distraction. All of these are related in some way with the rock/metal. I like Southpark too, as Simpsons, as Family Guy... but B&B for me is on the top (maybe over the top... ).
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Post by Legion on Feb 28, 2015 7:56:12 GMT -5
The first time I watched B&B I was sincerely shocked. I was 14 and never before exposed to MTV. But yes, I think that's exactly it about B&B, it's like you say. It's like laughing not to scream, much like the kind of spirit John Belushi had.
Metalocalypse is brilliant. Because if you can't laugh about yourself...
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Post by timtelford on Feb 28, 2015 10:34:32 GMT -5
Borntobooze, I saw an interview with Kip Winger years ago and among the things he felt killed them as well as grunge, was the fact the cartoon had the fat kid (don't recall his name) in a Winger shirt, he attributed that a lot to their decline
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Post by borntobooze on Feb 28, 2015 17:02:17 GMT -5
Laugh at yourself, this is a great virtue.
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Post by borntobooze on Feb 28, 2015 17:15:01 GMT -5
Borntobooze, I saw an interview with Kip Winger years ago and among the things he felt killed them as well as grunge, was the fact the cartoon had the fat kid (don't recall his name) in a Winger shirt, he attributed that a lot to their decline The fat kid is Stewart. As I seen B & B much later it was released, I had no idea that on his shirt it was a band. The song I heard, they seemed like Van Halen with some terminal disease. uuuuhuhuhu...
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Post by timtelford on Mar 1, 2015 8:21:14 GMT -5
Their guitar player was brilliant, Reb Beach if I recall rightly, but just a hairmetl bandwagon jumper, albeit beautifylly produced etc. Not quite as dire as those twins Nelson, but not a band to get excited over
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Post by lardomatic on Mar 1, 2015 9:24:40 GMT -5
Never got into Lost myself, tried a series and a half but got fed up with the increasing number of unanswered questions (what the hell was with the polar bear?)
Very hard to pick 5 series, but when I was a kid in the 70's it would have been:
Thunderbirds Starskey and Hutch The Six Million Dollar Man The Goodies Dr Who
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Post by Legion on Mar 1, 2015 13:14:57 GMT -5
Never got into Lost myself, tried a series and a half but got fed up with the increasing number of unanswered questions (what the hell was with the polar bear?) Very hard to pick 5 series, but when I was a kid in the 70's it would have been: Thunderbirds Starskey and Hutch The Six Million Dollar Man The Goodies Dr Who The polar bear! Actually, that one has possibly the most mundane and clearest explanation in all Lost. SPOILER ALERT: Experiments on the adaptability of non-native animals were being conducted on the island, and the bears escaped when the project fell apart. (although the writers' plan was possibly different back in season 1, when a connection with Walt's strange powers was hinted at - see Walt reading a comic book with a polar bear in it just prior to the bear attacking)
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Post by lardomatic on Mar 1, 2015 17:00:46 GMT -5
That's my point with Lost really, they intimate something and then just don't follow it through. I think the trouble was the writers created this monster and just didn't know where to go with it as it snowballed, leaving more unanswered questions than answers. And as for the ending, I'm glad I got out when I did. I know someone who invested 6 years of their life to get through every episode of every series and was gutted at what they saw as a cop out outcome.
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