timtelford
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Post by timtelford on Feb 24, 2015 16:00:15 GMT -5
I'm into Sons of Anarchy, slowly working thru season 3, taking my time Twin Peaks was a pivotal show for me, and planning on re-watching. I went to snoqaulmie Falls where it was filmed in the 90s, pre-digital cameras, and put my film in for 2-hour processing before going home so when I picked it up the day I flew home and MY pics weren't in the envelope and they had NO IDEA where they were, it was a disappointment to say the least. So some fucker in western Canada has pics of me sightseeing. But I digress. I was a big sci-fi fan, Star Trek Deep Space 9 was generally the best offshoot and Babylon 5 also kept the standard high for most of the original 5 season run.
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Post by Legion on Feb 24, 2015 16:42:14 GMT -5
Deep Space Nine is also the best Star Trek for me (though Picard remains the best captain).
True Detective is extremely interesting so far, but I'm also very conflicted about it. The writing is acme quality, but the concept is either extremely creative or extremely lazy - we haven't seen enough of it yet to know.
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Post by blackadder on Feb 24, 2015 16:52:50 GMT -5
So you like Star Trek Series too? . I dont know of these 5 which I liked the most. First Series I liked because of stories but how they are filmed comparing to this day it is funny. Technicly is not good but thats how it was than. After that 'Next Generation' was woow I remember as a kid, its not good technicly as later series but it is good series. 'DS9' at first was not good for me, but later it was favorite. Than Voyager I thought it was the most worse but later it wasnt. 'Enterpise' too. I liked 'Seven Of Nine' and 'T'pol' . 1. Original Series good stories, technicly bad. 2. Next Generation - Very Good 3. DS9 - First two seasons average, ffrom third season when Jem Hadar comes is very good. 4. Voyager - Same as DS9, from fourth season when they come in fight with Borg is very good. 5. 'Enterprise' - Second and third season when they have a fight with Zindy is very good. Ah, its hard to tell which one is best.
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Post by blackadder on Feb 24, 2015 16:54:38 GMT -5
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Post by Legion on Feb 24, 2015 17:54:07 GMT -5
New to me! I think Star Trek has always been good technically, comparably with when it's been made. The classic series was actually a technical marvel for television in that time frame. Story-wise: 1. Deep Space Nine. Unusual setting, grey morality, huge ongoing story arc. 2. Next Generation. Splendidly consistent, big efforts to make it believable, amazing characters. 3. Enterprise, Season 4. The kind of prequel Enterprise should always have been, fanservice at its best. 4. Original Star Trek. Fresh idea, great character dynamics, but a bit too much symbolic and hamfisted. 5. Voyager. Great idea, incredible potential, bad execution, unappealing characters. It's like they were writing this on autopilot, with way too much confidence. 6. Enterprise, Seasons 1 to 3. Fanservice done bad, prequel done timidly, inconsistent characters. They tried to rework it in season 3 but turned it into a 9/11 revenge allegory.
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Post by blackadder on Feb 25, 2015 2:54:59 GMT -5
And did you notice how Original Series had strange atmosphere? You know some stuff in it like lsd episodes/atmosphere or atmosphere with some tuch of Twin Peaks or even some thriller/horor feelling in some moments. In other series you dont have that.
All this SF stuff in 60's and 70's had this special strange atmosphere... Like beggining of movie "Planet of the apes", this space ship, gear, sound effects etc..
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Post by Legion on Feb 25, 2015 3:06:02 GMT -5
Yes, the Original Series did much more experimentation in terms of genre. Then of course the sequel series came and they stuck to the established blueprint, being sequels and all. Which leads to the rabbit's hole of what the actual identity of something is. Is the initial experimentation itself part of the identity? Or is the identity, rather, the dominant ideas coming from the initial experimentation? Also 60's-70's science fiction could be heavily allegorical, and a lot of time a very thin veil over the message.
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Post by Legion on Feb 25, 2015 3:11:17 GMT -5
Motörhead solved the experimentation conundrum by not caring about experimenting. I remember Lemmy saying in an interview how they just recorded what they felt sounded good, and if Motörhead never changed, then it was fine. Quote: "Chuck Berry never changed".
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Post by blackadder on Feb 25, 2015 6:13:14 GMT -5
Motörhead solved the experimentation conundrum by not caring about experimenting. I remember Lemmy saying in an interview how they just recorded what they felt sounded good, and if Motörhead never changed, then it was fine. Quote: "Chuck Berry never changed". Yes, they never changed about rnr, they didnt become Jazz. But they did change in sound a few times (On Parole, Overkill, Another Perfect day, Sacrifice.... because of different line up's, if they had same line up they would never change so much) but thats good, thats very good. Every album sounded how rnr should sound in that specific time; Bomber sounded in 1979 rnr, Aftershock thats rnr frm 2013 noot from 50s, or 60s, or 70s or 80s.. thats how it sound in 2013. Lemmy said also "If those guys were alive today thats how they would play it, rnr, today...". I cant listen acdc, to much boring for my taste. But Hawkwind had their own sort of sound but they are not boring, comparing them to acdc is maybe a crime . Star trek was always Star Trek but little bit different each time. I like them all, some maybe more some little bit less. I like that great photo of Lemmy and Chuck Berry on stage together ... Ok there are other thread for that.. Still, I liked that 60's and 70's SF stuff.. Planet Of The Apes is cool, second part is not bad, third ok, but fourth and fifth are very boring. I think it was different director for 4th and 5th part. Any suggestions on some good SF from that era?
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Post by Legion on Feb 25, 2015 6:26:44 GMT -5
Zardoz! Seriously, silly costumes aside I think it's really eerie, in the good sense.
Soylent Green is awesome.
Hmm, I must think about more. There surely are.
Motörhead did change, absolutely, but they never actively set themselves to. It was spontaneous, and you can hear it in the music. There's no cynicism in Motörhead.
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Post by blackadder on Feb 25, 2015 6:38:44 GMT -5
Zardoz! Seriously, silly costumes aside I think it's really eerie, in the good sense. Soylent Green is awesome. Hmm, I must think about more. There surely are. Motörhead did change, absolutely, but they never actively set themselves to. It was spontaneous, and you can hear it in the music. There's no cynicism in Motörhead. Great, thank you. I didnt heard for those. Yes, I agree about this about Motorhead. Honesty, spontaneous, you can here that in music, no fake, no 'fans will like this or that'... Thats one of the stuff why they are so good. As you know, they come in the studio and what comes out from them in that moment thats it, no demo tapes, no shit... Yup, thats our Motorhead . Well, who knows how this new album will sound, we will have it until September or October I am sure. 40 years and all that..
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timtelford
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Post by timtelford on Feb 25, 2015 15:55:42 GMT -5
Picard was an excellent captin, but overall DS9 takes the crown, Worf became a proper character and the overall ensemble playing set the stage for Voyager (very good after the first series) and indeed Enterprise, which was cruelly canned too early IMO
Terrahawks was great Sunday afternoon tv when I was a teenager, was a Gerry Anderson show if I recall rightly?
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borntobooze
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Post by borntobooze on Feb 26, 2015 17:28:55 GMT -5
An honorable mention to Beavis and Butt-head, how huge fan of non-sense gender couldn't pass this. Shame on me, I didn't watch the return of the series, someone would have an opinion on the new episodes?
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timtelford
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Post by timtelford on Feb 27, 2015 16:17:15 GMT -5
didn't know B&B had come back, used to be funny in small doses and as it was the tv show that ruined Wingers career, it had a to have some good points! A hair metal band even I didn't like
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borntobooze
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Post by borntobooze on Feb 27, 2015 20:50:49 GMT -5
I did not know this fact, but it is very funny to see them mocking some musicians and it was interesting that they made fun of some that they were enjoying. lol I would like to see them talk about some crap musicians of today.
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