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Post by Juggernaut on Mar 20, 2004 13:33:04 GMT -5
Thi shting came to my mind some time ago, again. I couldn't make peace with my mind about this issue. I did remember wrong about what Arty told us at Swedenrock, it was March ör die he was talking about. The thing that buggers me the most is the fact that Philthy played drums on "I ain't no nice guy" (not 100% sure about the track) on March ör die. Why in the world whould they let Philty record one track on the new album after he was fired from the band?
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Post by Legion on Mar 20, 2004 15:57:50 GMT -5
Maybe he needed the money and the guys were so good as to let him work? But more important, what if Lemmy was a hamster?
;D ;D
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Post by Desperado on Mar 20, 2004 16:41:40 GMT -5
Well Jugger, if its true: maybe they did the track some weeks before the other stuff of the album. And later (when Phil was out) Lemmy thought: "ok, let it be Philthys last track with MH!"
Maybe, its just my compulsive mind, you know
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Post by Copelasmatron on Mar 20, 2004 19:05:11 GMT -5
I think that the album is march or die and that there's been a mix up. I think that it's as simple as that.
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Post by Juggernaut on Mar 23, 2004 14:06:47 GMT -5
Well Jugger, if its true: maybe they did the track some weeks before the other stuff of the album. And later (when Phil was out) Lemmy thought: "ok, let it be Philthys last track with MH!" Maybe, its just my compulsive mind, you know Sure Philthy could have recorded a track on March ör die, that I agree with. What I meant, but I wasn't too clear about: If Philty wasn't good enough to do the drumming on 1916, and use a replacement on that album, why would they let him record a song for March ör die? That doesn't make sense.
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Post by DUNK on Mar 23, 2004 20:27:33 GMT -5
MONEY OR LACK OF IT I GUESS. NO MORE TIME IN THE STUDIO ALL THE TRACKS LAYED DOWN AND NOT ENOUGH DOSH/STUDIO TIME TO RERECORD PHILTHYS BIT.AN IN TRUE LEMMY STLYE IT"S "FUCK IT STICK THAT ONE ON"
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Post by Copelasmatron on Mar 24, 2004 18:10:37 GMT -5
I think it's just crossed wires.
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Post by DutchMhdbnger on Apr 8, 2004 13:37:05 GMT -5
no way that the drumming on 1916 wasn't Philthy's drumming, how could he play those fast song from 1916 live then? (don't believe Motörhead uses triggered drums>>>they ain't Kiss>>Hey Peter Criss ) He couldn't play Overkill anymore cuz his legs had gone, but I don't hear any double bass drum attacks on 1916
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Post by Goddess of Thunder on Apr 8, 2004 18:56:40 GMT -5
good point dutch
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Post by El Matarife on Nov 29, 2006 4:41:30 GMT -5
Trawling through old threads here - but this one can't be right. Aldridge played on MoD, not 1916. Are you lot saying Aldridge played on 2 albums? The drums on those 2 albums do not sound similar at all.
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Post by Juggernaut on Nov 29, 2006 4:53:08 GMT -5
My mind played a few tricks, maybe it was all because of all beer at Swedenrock that year...
Just to make things straight: Phil did the drumming on 1916 Aldridge did the drumming on March ör die, excpet for Hellraiser wich Mikkey did and I'm not 100% sure but I think it was I ain't no nice guy that Phil did...
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Post by El Matarife on Nov 30, 2006 8:21:27 GMT -5
Aldridge did the drumming on March ör die, excpet for Hellraiser wich Mikkey did and I'm not 100% sure but I think it was I ain't no nice guy that Phil did... I've heard this a few times, has anyone found any proof? All I've ever found are interviews from Mikkey saying that all the drumming on MoD was Aldridge and that he and Philthy didn't do any.
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Post by Juggernaut on Nov 30, 2006 11:24:44 GMT -5
I heard that Aldridge offered Mikkey to take credit for the drumming but he refused 'cos he didn't like it...
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Post by dmh on Nov 30, 2006 16:13:25 GMT -5
From what I've heard, Aldridge played on most of March or Die, Mikkey did Hellraiser, and Philthy did Ain't no nice guy.
Regarding 1916, It was Pete Gill who told me Tommy Aldridge did most of the drumming, because Philthy (and I love the guy to bits) wasn't capable, they were on a big label at the time and needed to make a good impression to Epic.
I have no reason to think Pete was lying, but if you compare the playing on Rock and Roll to 1916, only 3 tracks ie No Voices in the Sky and Angel City and maybe Ramones, even sounds like Philthy.
When you consider that towards the end of Philthy's second stint in Motorhead he wasn't capable of playing Overkill which Lem himself said contributed to his being replaced, I find it incredible that anyone can seriously think Phil played on "The one to sing the blues", to me it sounds too good to be Phil, and a totally different style of playing. As for Philthy having the credit, it wasn't the first time Lemmy covered for his old wayward friend, and no one else in the band is going to contradict Lem are they?
By the time March or Die came around things were so bad with Phil even Lemmy wouldn't cover for him anymore.
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Post by Juggernaut on Nov 30, 2006 23:50:22 GMT -5
But if Phil wasn't able to play the 1916 track in studio, when you got plenty of chances to get it right, why in the world did they drag him around on a tour? Doesn't make sense at all... I don't say that Pete Gill is lying, but perhaps he's mistaking?
Not very enlightening for El Matarife though...
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